Victory: the Path to Peace

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I am in total agreement with you on the necessity to defeat Islamization, Muhammadism, and the idea that the Qu'ranic prophecies can be accomplished. This militant work must be knocked all the way back into the caves. I still say that once their defeat is accepted by them, then we can relax for a while. It is a fight that will have to be refought generation after generation. I just cannot accept that we have to perpetrate a genocide. The Bible says that some from every tribe and nation will be saved. If we were to generate a holy genocide we would become the very thing we hate about them. That is too dear a price to pay. Great post though. The clarity this brings to the table should be in a folder on the desk of every military leader in the western world and in the formost thoughts of our political leaders until that permanent surrender is accomplished.
It is about victory & extinction, not genocide. Genocide is but one possible method of eliminating Islam.

There is a much more humane method: emancipating Allah's slaves through the ideological battle Shrub speaks of but never prosecutes.

Unfortunately, it is not likely to be possible to emancipate all Muslims. There is that recalcitrant remainder that must be physically eliminated. This war must be prosecuted on both fronts: military & ideological.

It is not possible for Israel to obtain peace & security while Islam exists. Nor is it possible for us. I do not find the spectre of constant attack to be tolerable. I have always said: "Once is enough!". The Barbary Wars were that once, as far as I am concerned.

This Gd'd terrorism is too much, and must be completely eliminated. Victory!!! Accept no substitutes!!!

This Gd'd terrorism is too much, and must be completely eliminated. Victory!!! Accept no substitutes!!!

Now, that much I am fully behind. Victory until the terrorism is equated with the inevitable result of their defeat and utter elimination. If we are not willing to do that much, we do not deserve the liberty handed down to us. Freedom must be protected at all costs. And it usually is very expensive but well worth the cost.
Sometimes I fail to communicate effectively, despite my best efforts. I can not accept the concept of periodic episodes of genocidal aggression from a repeat offender. WWII should have taught us something.

Some offenses must meet a zero tolerance barrier. Razzia & Ghazwat meet that test. Can we accept them if they only take one nation, one province, one city per century, year or decade? Can we accept them if they only kill or captivate 1000, 100, 10 or 1 in a given time span? Whose life is expendable?

Intra species predation must be reduced to zero.

Can you say the same thing of intra-species predation? I mean, it sound right, but in practice, the authority becomes the guilty. In the effort to bring the costs to zero, the protectors become the abusers. So the question becomes what is the acceptable loss quotient? I say it is when the nuts figure out that predation nets them more recompense than they are willing to accept. Now, that puts the moral ball back in their court. If they are unwilling to stop trying to force their will on others, then we keep pursuing them and killing them until they cease to exist, if that's what it takes.
In the case of Islam, that is what it takes. Islam will always regenerate, with renewed vigor, vitality & enthusiasm for rapine.

Human nature being what it is, we will never completely eliminate criminal behavior, but we can minimize it.

Eternal vigilance may be the price of liberty, but it is proving to be too much in the case of Islamic terrorism. The taxpaying public is losing interest and patience. Islam's patience & perseverance will bring it victory if we don't eliminate it first.
Elimination of a group as a stated goal will never fly with the American people. Even at the price of our own extinction as a nation. However, instilling an attitude of stomping the abuser into the ground every time he abuses his liberty is a possibility if we can inform and convince them that this is possible and necessary and the only viable option.

I am completely with you in that we must stop the abuses, but I have to be a realist and see what will work and what we can possibly get the people to accept.
This is one case where a false sense of morality will get us conquered. Exterminating Islam is a means, not an end. It is necessary because Islam is a predator which is preying upon us and will never cease from predation while it has the ability to carry on.

Stomping Islam into the ground does not cut the mustard. It must be eliminated. We need to emancipate as many of Allah's slaves as possible and usher the recalcitrant remainder into Hell. The survival of western civilization depends on it.

Pogroms against Jews in Israel have been ongoing for more than 100 years. Suppression tactics failed. Ignoring the attacks failed. Negotiations failed. Good will gestures failed. Every tactic that has been tried yielded more blood and tears.

This is the rule. It will happen every time. Like Lucy snatching the ball from Charlie Brown's toe. Every time; without exception. It is a fixed pattern. Wolves eat lambs. Kill the wolves. Its that simple.

Israel will not obtain secure peace until there are no Muslims within rocket range. This is objective factual reality. There was nothing Henry Kissinger could do about it. There was nothing Don Baker could do about it. There was nothing Dennis Ross could do about it. There was nothing Brezezinski or Skowcroft could do about it. There was nothing Albright could do about it. There was nothing Powell could do about it. There is nothing Rice can do about it.

There is one and only one possible solution. Its time to face up to the facts and deal with them squarely. There is no two state solution. While Israel's neighbors are Muslims, they must be Hellbent on killing her. There is no other possibility. This is a kill or be killed situation. In such a situation, killing those who seek your destruction is not immoral. It is right, natural and just.

Even so in Afghanistan, Iraq & Pakistan. There is no possibility of sustaining peaceful, secure democracy there while the local population remains enslaved to Allah. We are wasting our blood and treasure.


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