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PackSmack,
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"And don't use your low opinion of Ben or myself to judge the qualifications of the doctrine; as Ben says, a creed is not disqualfied by 'its heretics.' Flee, Islam. It has nothing to offer you."
So now you say you and Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul are heretics? Ya, heretics from reality.
The issue is your and Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul's calling for the killing of unarmed and defenseless citizens of USA, Canada, and the rest of the world who have done you no harm. You and Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul allow your unnatural fear and hatred of others to turn you into deeply soul-less individuals. You have no faith, no beliefs.
You follow of an extremely warped interpretation of the writings of Islam. You will not lie yourself to the truth.
"Get a clue, for Chrissake!" again with this blasphemy. Nothing you call for is for the sake of Jesus. Stop using JC's name. Your murderous cries to kill people are insane and come from your fear, not faith.
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- "And
don't use your low opinion of Ben or myself to judge the qualifications
of the doctrine; as Ben says, a creed is not disqualfied by 'its
heretics.' Flee, Islam. It has nothing to offer you."
So now you say you and Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul are heretics? Ya, heretics from reality.
Unlike Ema, we are not Muslims, we curse & condemn Islam, exposing its evil core at every opportunity. The reality is Islam's nature: pure, unmitigated evil; mercenary & martial as I proved by the preponderance of evidence in the post to which Ema attached her idiotic comment. Ema ignores objective factual reality because it does not comport with her prejudice.
- The issue is your and Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul's calling for the killing of unarmed and defenseless citizens of USA, Canada, and the rest of the world who have done you no harm.
We do not call for killing "unarmed and defenseless" Americans or Canadians. We disrespectfully demand the deportation of all Muslims and closing our borders to Muslims.
We disrespectfully demand recognition of the fatal fact that Islam is not a 'religion of peace'; Islam is a war cult. Islam's mission is total world conquest, its tactics are genocide & terrorism. The 'original religion' of Islam is Jihad. We disrespectfully demand recognition of the fatal fact that Islam declared and is prosecuting war against us.
We disrespectfully demand recognition of the fatal fact that Islam is inimical to liberty: Islam is slavery; Muslims are Allah's slaves, purchased to kill and be killed fighting to make his word dominant. We disrespectfully demand recognition of the fatal fact that Islam denys human equality, assigning women to the status of chattel and Jews & Christians to dhimmitude, less than second class citizenship; to be humiliated, tormented and subjugated. We disrespectfully demand recognition of the fatal fact that Islam denys the sanctity of our lives.
We disrespectfully demand recognition of the fatal fact that Islam is tyrannical; inimical to representative government.
We disrespectfully demand recognition of the fatal fact that every Muslim is a threat to our lives & liberties because he is Allah's slave, purchased to conquer us, commanded to kill, terrify, torment, humiliate, subjugate & enslave us. Allah's commands are clear, contained in clear verses, which are to be believed and implemented.
In Ibn Kathir's Tafsir, you can see Allah's damnable commands, together with hadith which confirm them & the Qadi's confirmation of their obvious meaning. Ibn Kathir spent his entire adult life studying and teaching that excrement so we don't need to. Read them and curse Islam.
- The Command to have Enmity towards the Disbelievers and to abandon supporting Them
- The Command to strike the Enemies' Necks, tighten Their Bonds, and then free Them either by an Act of Grace or for a Ransom
- The Order to fight until there is no more Fitnah
- The Order for Jihad against the Disbelievers, the Closest, then the Farthest Areas
- The Order to fight to eradicate Shirk and Kufr
- The Order to fight People of the Scriptures until They give the Jizyah
- The Order for Jihad against the Disbelievers and Hypocrites
If you think those commands are apocryphal, metaphorical, or limited chronologically or geographically, then you are an ignorant damn fool. The Qur'an is Allah's perfected, immutable law which never expires. It is timeless, and Jihad continues until Judgment Day!
If you think that those commands do not mean exactly what they say, read the books of Jihad & Expedition in the various hadith collections; see what Moe did and said relative to Jihad; then, if you have a soul, you will curse Islam.
Besides being literalistic & absolutist, Islam is supremacist & triumphalist. Once again, Ibn Kathir is my witness.
- The Good News that Muslims will conquer the Known World, and ultimately the Entire World
- The Good News that Muslims will Dominate the People of the Book
- The Good News that Islam shall prevail
- You and Ali Ben Ali Mohammad Abdul allow your unnatural fear and hatred of others to turn you into deeply soul-less individuals. You have no faith, no beliefs.
- You follow of an extremely warped interpretation of the writings of Islam. You will not lie yourself to the truth.
- "Get a clue, for Chrissake!" again with this blasphemy. Nothing you call for is for the sake of Jesus. Stop using JC's name. Your murderous cries to kill people are insane and come from your fear, not faith.
Who is Jesus Christ? Is he the son of God?
- 23:91. No son (or offspring or children) did Allâh beget, nor is there any ilâh (god) along with Him; (if there had been many gods), behold, each god would have taken away what he had created, and some would have tried to overcome others! Glorified be Allâh above all that they attribute to Him!
- 3:61. Then whoever disputes with you concerning him ['Iesa (Jesus)] after (all this) knowledge that has come to you, [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus)] being a slave of Allâh, and having no share in Divinity) say: (O Muhammad ) "Come, let us call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves - then we pray and invoke (sincerely) the Curse of Allâh upon those who lie."
- 4:157. And because of
their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of
Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allâh," - but they killed him
not, nor crucified him,
but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they
killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of
doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but
conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of
Maryam (Mary) ]:
4:158. But Allâh raised him ['Iesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allâh is Ever AllPowerful, AllWise.
- 61:14. O you who
believe! Be you helpers (in the Cause) of Allâh as said 'Iesa (Jesus),
son of Maryam (Mary), to AlHawârîûn (the disciples): "Who are my
helpers (in the Cause) of Allâh?" AlHawârîeen (the disciples) said:
"We are Allâh's helpers" (i.e.
we will strive in His Cause!). Then a group of
the Children of Israel believed and a group disbelieved. So We gave power to those who believed
against their enemies, and they became the uppermost.
- Abu Dawud Book 37, Number 4310:
Narrated AbuHurayrah:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (peace_be_upon_him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.
- In the future, the Jews will support the Dajjal (False Messiah); and the Muslims, along with `Isa, son of Mary, will kill the Jews. This will occur just before the end of this world. Eternal Humiliation placed on the Jews
- Go to Moses, the slave to whom Allah spoke (directly) and gave him the Torah .' So they will go to him and he will say, 'I am not fit for this undertaking.' and he will mention (his) killing a person who was not a killer, and so he will feel ashamed thereof before his Lord, and he will say, 'Go to Jesus, Allah's Slave, His Apostle and Allah's Word and a Spirit coming from Him. Jesus will say, 'I am not fit for this undertaking, go to Muhammad the Slave of Allah whose past and future sins were forgiven by Allah.' So they will come to me and I will proceed till I will ask my Lord's Permission and I will be given permission. When I see my Lord, I will fall down in Prostration and He will let me remain in that state as long as He wishes and then I will be addressed.' (Muhammad!) Raise your head. Ask, and your request will be granted; say, and your saying will be listened to; intercede, and your intercession will be accepted.' Sahih Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 3
- Your murderous cries to kill people are insane and come from your fear, not faith.
I make this call because of the fatal fact, which I have proved with ample evidence from Islam's own canon, that Islam is perpetually violent, a real, proximate & persistent threat to life & liberty.
Q.E.D.
Throughout this document, I have quoted the Hilali & Khan translation of the Noble Qur'an, linking each ayeh to a non-Muslim site which displays ten translations in parallel so that you can compare them and examine the context. www.quranbrowser.com also has a search engine so that you can search the various Qur'an translations. I have quoted various hadith, in each case linking to one of the hadith collections at USC-MSA, an Islamic site, which is the source for most of the on line hadith sites. I have quoted Ibn Kathir's Tafsir, linking each quote to www.tafsir.com, an Islamic site so that you may verify the quote and examine the context. If you desire to search Ibn Kathir's Tafsir, go to Qtafsir, which features the same text plus a search engine. If you need to search the hadith, go to Islaamnet.
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In his first televised interview since being inaugerated, President
Barack Hussein Obama had some things to tell Al Arabiya.
"My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy,"
- My job to the Muslim world
- the Americans are not your enemy
In any case, Islam is our enemy, having declared and prosecuted war upon us. We need to reciprocate.[the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman (or Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War]
“[W]e are ready to initiated a new partnership based on mutual respect and mutual interest,”
- partnership
3:118. O you who believe! Take not as (your) Bitânah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends, etc.) those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. Indeed We have made plain to you the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses) if you understand
- mutual respect
- mutual interest
Palestine is Israel. Jews are Palestinians. The Muslims, Arabs & mixed breeds illegally occupying Gaza and the West Bank are Falestinians, not Palestinians. The Levant is Jewish homeland, not Muslim Arab homeland. Muslim history in the Levant begins with Caliph Umar's conquest of 638. There is no reason for a Falestinian state, the Kingdom of Jordan would serve that purpose if there was any reason.“I think it is possible for us to see a Palestinian state – I’m not going to put a time frame on it – that is contiguous,”
“[M]y job is to communicate the fact that the United States has a stake in the well-being of the Muslim world that the language we use has to be a language of respect,”
“[T]he language we use matters,” “We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith’s name.”
- the United States has a stake in the well-being of the Muslim world
Respect is given where respect is due, we earned ours and so will you. Islam is not worthy of respect and should receive nothing but execrations; it is pure, unmitigated evil, by design.
Islam is on the war path, Israel seeks peace. The existence of Muslims in the region is the only obstacle to peace. Those Muslims should decide to abandon Jihad, but they will not, because Allah will curse them if they do [Abu Dawud 32.3455]. They must fulfill their demonic mandate to reconquer Israel [9:29]. Muslims are interested in conquest, neither prosperity nor security. The life of this world is but an illusion; they sold it for the gardens of Paradise in the next [9:111]. What is there to negotiate about with those who seed your total destruction [Muslim 41.6985]?Ultimately, we cannot tell either the Israelis or the Palestinians what's best for them. They're going to have to make some decisions. But I do believe that the moment is ripe for both sides to realize that the path that they are on is one that is not going to result in prosperity and security for their people. And that instead, it's time to return to the negotiating table.
Islam pursues 'peace' through conquest so that Dar al-Harb will be totally engulfed by Dar al-Islam. Get a clue, idiot. Victory is a prequisite to peace. While Islam exists on this planet, peace will not.I think that there are ideas across the region of how we might pursue peace.
Peace is achieved through extermination of aggressors, not by appeasement. No matter what Israel sacrifices, she will get nothing but escalated atteaks in return. There is nothing to negotiate about with those Hellbent on genocide.But I also believe that there are Israelis who recognize that it is important to achieve peace. They will be willing to make sacrifices if the time is appropriate and if there is serious partnership on the other side.
Well, I think that when you look at the rhetoric that they've been using against me before I even took office --what that tells me is that their ideas are bankrupt. There's no actions that they've taken that say a child in the Muslim world is getting a better education because of them, or has better health care because of them.
In my inauguration speech, I spoke about: You will be judged on what you've built, not what you've destroyed. And what they've been doing is destroying things. And over time, I think the Muslim world has recognized that that path is leading no place, except more death and destruction.
- their ideas are bankrupt.
- There's no actions that they've taken that say a child in the Muslim world is getting a better education because of them, or has better health care because of them
- I think the Muslim world has recognized that that path is leading no place, except more death and destruction.
The largest one, Indonesia. And so what I want to communicate is the fact that in all my travels throughout the Muslim world, what I've come to understand is that regardless of your faith -- and America is a country of Muslims, Jews, Christians, non-believers -- regardless of your faith, people all have certain common hopes and common dreams.
- regardless of your faith, people all have certain common hopes and common dreams.
2:212. Beautified is the life of this world for those who disbelieve, and they mock at those who believe. But those who obey Allâh's Orders and keep away from what He has forbidden, will be above them on the Day of Resurrection. And Allâh gives (of His Bounty, Blessings, Favours, Honours, etc. on the Day of Resurrection) to whom He wills without limit.
3:185. Everyone shall taste death. And only on the Day of Resurrection shall you be paid your wages in full. And whoever is removed away from the Fire and admitted to Paradise, he indeed is successful. The life of this world is only the enjoyment of deception (a deceiving thing).
4:77. Have you not seen those who were told to hold back their hands (from fighting) and perform As-Salât (IqâmatasSalât), and give Zakât, but when the fighting was ordained for them, behold! a section of them fear men as they fear Allâh or even more. They say: "Our Lord! Why have you ordained for us fighting? Would that you had granted us respite for a short period?" Say: "Short is the enjoyment of this world. The Hereafter is (far) better for him who fears Allâh, and you shall not be dealt with unjustly even equal to the Fatilâ (a scalish thread in the long slit of a datestone).
6:32. And the life of this world is nothing but play and amusement. But far better is the house in the Hereafter for those who are AlMuttaqûn (the pious - see V.2:2). Will you not then understand?
9:111. Verily, Allâh has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allâh's Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) and the Qur'ân. And who is truer to his covenant than Allâh? Then rejoice in the bargain which you have concluded. That is the supreme success .
That is not what they want. They want to Impose Allah and the rule of his writ upon the entire world by force, as Allah commanded them to do.And my job is to communicate to the American people that the Muslim world is filled with extraordinary people who simply want to live their lives and see their children live better lives.
America was born as a group of colonies who threw off the colonial power and established independence. Muslims never respected us and never will, they hold us in contempt because we are not Muslims. Muslims can not take disbelievers as partners except fraudulently, to lull us into complacency; setting us up for attack. Thirty years ago, Khomeini's mob seized our embassy and held the staff hostage for a year.But if you look at the track record, as you say, America was not born as a colonial power, and that the same respect and partnership that America had with the Muslim world as recently as 20 or 30 years ago, there's no reason why we can't restore that. Andthat I think is going to be an important task.
And you're going to see me following through with dealing with a drawdown of troops in Iraq, so that Iraqis can start taking more responsibility. And finally, I think you've already seen a commitment, in terms of closing Guantanamo, and making clear that even as we are decisive in going after terrorist organizations that would kill innocent civilians, that we're going to do so on our terms, and we're going to do so respecting the rule of law that I think makes America great.
- drawdown of troops in Iraq, so that Iraqis can start taking more responsibility
- closing Guantanamo
- making clear that even as we are decisive in going after terrorist organizations that would kill innocent civilians, that we're going to do so on our terms,
- we're going to do so respecting the rule of law that I think makes America great.
I think that you're making a very important point. And that is that the language we use matters. And what we need to understand is, is that there are extremist organizations -- whether Muslim or any other faith in the past -- that will use faith as a justification for violence. We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith's name. But to the broader Muslim world what we are going to be offering is a hand of friendship.
- extremist organizations -- whether Muslim or any other faith in the past -- that will use faith as a justification for violence
- We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence that is done in that faith's name
Allah ordained fighting for Muslims; made it a mandatory requirement.
Why in Hell is Jihad ordained for the "religion of peace"? For defense? Yeah, right. Moe fought one defensive battle when the Mekkans set out to eliminate him. Too bad they failed!2:216. Jihâd (holy fighting in Allâh's Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allâh knows but you do not know.
Allah commanded Muslims to fight disbelievers until all resistance ends
and only Allah is worshiped: a total monopoly of faith and practice
global in scope.
What does that mean, if not exactly what it says? What did Moe do about it? Try reading Ibn Kathir's Tafsir if you have any doubt: The Order to fight to eradicate Shirk and Kufr.8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allâh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allâh), then certainly, Allâh is All-Seer of what they do.
Allah commanded the Muslims to fight Jews, Christians &
Zoroastrians until they are subjugated and extorted.
How do you explain that away? Don't try, it is enshrined in Islamic law: Umdat as-Salik O9.8.9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
Think you can explain that away? Give it a try in the comments, but, before you do, read Ibn Kathir's Tafsir: The Order to fight People of the Scriptures until They give the Jizyah.The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled" (Koran 9.29),...
Each of the four major hadith collections has a book of Jihad or Expedition. How do you explain that fact? Sahih Bukhari dedicates three books: Jihad, Khumus & Expedition to war related matters. Explain that away, if you can.
One hadith collected by Abu Dawud proves
my point better than any other. It illustrates the fatal fact of Islam:
Islam is Jihad!
Abu Dawud Book 23, Number 3455:
Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:
I heard the Apostle of Allah, (peace_be_upon_him) say: When you enter into the inah transaction, hold the tails of oxen, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad (struggle in the way of Allah). Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion.
Islam is the terrorist organization that kills innocent civilians. Hunt it down and eracicate it! Moe was the prototypical terrorist.And so you will I think see our administration be very clear in distinguishing between organizations like al Qaeda -- that espouse violence, espouse terror and act on it -- and people who may disagree with my administration and certain actions, or may have a particular viewpoint in terms of how their countries should develop. We can have legitimate disagreements but still be respectful. I cannot respect terrorist organizations that would kill innocent civilians and we will hunt them down.
- Allah made me victorious by awe
- I have been made victorious with terror
- But to the broader Muslim world what we are going to be offering is a hand of friendship.
I have shown you two of seven ayeh which forbid friendly relations with disbelievers. If you have a good Muslim buddy, he is not a good Muslim or - this hadith cited by Ibn Kathir might apply.60:1. O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies (i.e. disbelievers and polytheists, etc.) as friends, showing affection towards them, while they have disbelieved in what has come to you of the truth (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism, this Qur'ân, and Muhammad ), and have driven out the Messenger (Muhammad ) and yourselves (from your homeland) because you believe in Allâh your Lord! If you have come forth to strive in My Cause and to seek My Good Pleasure, (then take not these disbelievers and polytheists, etc., as your friends). You show friendship to them in secret, while I am All-Aware of what you conceal and what you reveal. And whosoever of you (Muslims) does that, then indeed he has gone (far) astray, (away) from the Straight Path .
For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda' said, "We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.'' Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, "The Tuqyah is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.'' [The Prohibition of Supporting the Disbelievers]
Go ahead, talk to Iran. Tell them about Hiroshima & Nagasaki. Tell them "once is enough, but we can use them again if we need to, and we will not hesitate". Unless you will say "Go to Hell and be damned!", there is nothing else to say to Iran. There is nothing to negotiate about with someone pledged to destroy our civilization.You know, I said during the campaign that it is very important for us to make sure that we are using all the tools of U.S. power, including diplomacy, in our relationship with Iran.
Now, the Iranian people are a great people, and Persian civilization is a great civilization. Iran has acted in ways that's not conducive to peace and prosperity in the region: their threats against Israel; their pursuit of a nuclear weapon which could potentially set off an arms race in the region that would make everybody less safe; their support of terrorist organizations in the past -- none of these things have been helpful.
But I do think that it is important for us to be willing to talk to Iran, to express very clearly where our differences are, but where there are potential avenues for progress. And we will over the next several months be laying out our general framework and approach. And as I said during my inauguration speech, if countries like Iran are willing to unclench their fist, they will find an extended hand from us.
Another target rich comment too good to pass up.
http://snooper.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/myth-vs-fact-118/#comment-2308
Comment by navedz | January 6, 2009
Islam is a religion of PEACE. It doesn’t teach us to kill unlike other religions. Muslims start their greetings with “As-salaam-wa Alaikum Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh”, which means in English “May GOD’s peace, mercy and blessings be upon you.”
Allah states: “Whoever kills a human being… then it is as though he has killed all mankind; and whoever saves a human life it is as though he had saved all mankind.”
No one probably ever heard of such a stunning message of peace, which considers killing just one person (be it innocent or not) tantamount to killing the entire humanity? Now the doubters should not have any more skepticism about Muslim’s claim that “Islam is a religion of peace”.
The unjustified criticisms of and spitting venoms at Islam by the hateful Islam-bashers got to stop now..
Navedz attached his comment to Myth vs Fact #118, reproduced here.
| Myth | Fact |
| Islam: Religion of peace. | 33:26-27 And those of the people of the Scripture who backed them (the disbelievers) Allah brought them down from their forts and cast terror into their hearts, (so that) a group (of them) you killed, and a group (of them) you made captives. And He caused you to inherit their lands, and their houses, and their riches, and a land which you had not trodden (before). And Allah is Able to do all things. |
| Tafsir | Allah drove back the Confederates disappointed and lost |
Examine the other texts mentioning that conquest:
- Abu Dawud Book 38, Number 4390: evidence of genocide.
- The Campaign of the Confederates (Al-Ahzab)
- Islam is a religion of PEACE
- Yeah, right, genocide is the hallmark of a peaceful
religion. It
is so peaceful that its purpose is fighting in Allah's cause, killing
and being killed[9:111]. Another
installment shows us how peaceful Islam is.
Myth Fact Islam: Religion of peace. 8:39:And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do. [8:39]
Tafsir Righteousness comes from TaqwaThe Disbelievers spend Their Wealth to hinder Others from Allah’s Path, but this will only cause Them Grief Bottom Line: Allah orders Muslims to make war on disbelievers until all resistance ceases and only Allah is worshiped.
This is confirmed in Bukhari1.8.387 and enshrined in Islamic law though not directly referenced by Reliance of the Traveller Book O9.9. - It doesn’t teach us to kill unlike other religions.
- Islam does not teach you to kill, it commands & orders1 you to make war (fight)[8:39, 9:29{Myth vs Fact #2}] and tells you how to kill "smite at their necks".
- Muslims start their greetings with “As-salaam-wa Alaikum Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh”, which means in English “May GOD’s peace, mercy and blessings be upon you.”
- That
is how they greet Muslims. As for greeting Kuffar, see: XDIII.
People of the Book {Aisha Bewley's translation of
Bukhari's Book of Adab} For the benefit of
those too indolent to click a link I offer a similar hadith from Abu
Dawud's collection. Book 41, Number 5186:
Narrated AbuHurayrah:
Suhayl ibn AbuSalih said: I went out with my father to Syria. The people passed by the cloisters in which there were Christians and began to salute them. My father said: Do not give them salutation first, for AbuHurayrah reported the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) as saying: Do not salute them (Jews and Christians) first, and when you meet them on the road, force them to go to the narrowest part of it. - Allah states: “Whoever kills a human being… then it is as though he has killed all mankind; and whoever saves a human life it is as though he had saved all mankind.”
- The quote is from Surah Al-Ma'idah 32. Of course, Muslims don't like to quote the next ayeh to Kuffar. But I like to, and I like to cite Ibn Kathir's tafsir of 5:32.
- The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter.
- What is the meaning of "wage war against Allah"? Ibn Kathir gives an explicit answer: `Wage war' mentioned here means, oppose and contradict, and it includes disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways.. Notice the phrase I emphasized. disbelief is one of the definitions of waging war, which subjects one to the specified hudud.
- No one probably ever heard of such a stunning message of peace, which considers killing just one person (be it innocent or not) tantamount to killing the entire humanity?
- The catch is: only if that person is a Muslim! The parenthetical 'or not' is totally bogus. Islam does not recognize the sanctity of life of Kuffar
- And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us[Bukhari 1.8.387].
- Now the doubters should not have any more skepticism about Muslim’s claim that “Islam is a religion of peace”.
- We are not in doubt; we know blessed well that Islam is a war cult, not a religion of peace. I have published 490 excerpts from Islam's canon of scripture, tradition & jurisprudence which leave no doubt. Those texts form a congruent pattern of unmistakable clarity.
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The unjustified criticisms of and spitting venoms at Islam by the hateful Islam-bashers got to stop now..
- Criticism of Islam is not unjustified. A trail of blood & tears; the bones of millions of innocent victims from Medina to Mumbai testify to this fatal fact. Those of us who understand Islam; who have read its revelation, tradition & exegeses will not be silent. Morality demands that we share our knowledge with others less informed.
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Chapter O9.0: Jihad
(O: Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion. [Refer to translator's notes to 2:190.]
- O9.1 : The Obligatory Character of Jihad ...
As for subsequent times, there are two possible states in respect to non-Muslims.
The first is when they are in their own countries, in which case jihad (def: o9.8) is a communal obligation, and this is what our author is speaking of when he says, "Jihad is a communal obligation," meaning upon the Muslims each year. ...
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O9.8: The Objectives of Jihad
The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled" (Koran 9.29),
the time and place for which is before the final descent of Jesus (upon whom be peace). After his final coming, nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus' descent (upon him and our Prophet be peace), which is the divinely revealed law of Muhammad. The coming of Jesus does not entail a separate divinely revealed law, for he will rule by the law of Muhammad. As for the Prophet's saying (Allah bless him and give him peace),
"I am the last, there will be no prophet after me,"
this does not contradict the final coming of Jesus (upon whom be peace), since he will not rule according to the Evangel, but as a follower of our Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) ).
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O9.9
The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim (O: because they are not a people with a Book, nor honored as such, and are not permitted to settle with paying the poll tax (jizya) ) (n: though according to the Hanafi school, peoples of all other religions, even idol worshippers, are permitted to live under the protection of the Islamic state if they either become Muslim or agree to pay the poll tax, the sole exceptions to which are apostates from Islam and idol worshippers who are Arabs, neither of whom has any choice but becoming Muslim (al-Hidaya sharh Bidaya al-mubtadi' (y21), 6.48-49) ).
Sheikh Burhanuddin Ali of Marghinan, d. 1196, hanafi. The Hidayah, cit. ur T.P. Hughes, A Dictionary of Islam (London 1895/1994), s. 244-5.
| The destruction of the sword is incurred by infidels, although they be not the first aggressors, as appears from various passages in the traditions which are generally received to this effect. […] When the Muslims enter the enemy’s country and besiege the cities or strongholds of the infidels, it is necessary to invite them to embrace the faith, because Ibn Abbas relates of the Prophet that he never destroyed any without previously inviting them to embrace the faith. If, therefore, they embrace the faith, it is unnecessary to war with them, because that which was the design of the war is then obtained without war. […] If the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax, it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them […] |
How about the more pacifist Sufi? What did Al-Ghazali say?
al-Ghazali, d. 1111, shafi’i, sufi. Kitab al-Wagiz fi fiqh madhab al-imam al-Safi’i (Beirut 1979), s. 186, 190-1, 199-200, 202-3, övers. Michael Schub.
| One must go on jihad (i.e. warlike razzias or raids) at least once a year […] one may use a catapult against them [non-Muslims] when they are in a fortress, even if among them are women and children. |
- Ibn Kathir's Tafsir uses ayat & hadith to explain the meanings of ayat. Allah's imperatives are contained in clear verses, requiring no explanation. The following list consists of the titles of several tafsir which explain Allah's commands & orders to fight. These titles are linked to the tafsir; click them, read and understand how peaceful islam ain't.
- The Command to strike the Enemies' Necks, tighten Their Bonds, and then free Them either by an Act of Grace or for a Ransom
- The Order to fight until there is no more Fitnah
- Permission to fight; this is the first Ayah of Jihad
- The Order for Jihad against the Disbelievers, the Closest, then the Farthest Areas
- The Order to fight to eradicate Shirk and Kufr
- The Order to fight People of the Scriptures until They give the Jizyah
- The Order for Jihad against the Disbelievers and Hypocrites
- The Good News that Muslims will conquer the Known World, and ultimately the Entire World
- The Good News that Muslims will Dominate the People of the Book
- The Good News that Islam shall prevail
From Zenit.org comes
Final Statement of Catholic-Muslim
Forum "Called to Be Instruments
of Love and Harmony"
For background information about the meetings, see this Reuters article
of 11/06/08.
The statement includes an enumerated list of fifteen points which
present a target rich environment In this installment, I'll take on the
eleventh point of agreement.[Links & emphasis added.]
Taken at face value, the eleventh point means that the participants accept the concept of benign religion. Lets break it down into discrete elements for easier analysis.We profess that Catholics and Muslims are called to be instruments of love and harmony among believers, and for humanity as a whole, renouncing any oppression, aggressive violence and terrorism, especially that committed in the name of religion, and upholding the principle of justice for all.
- love & harmony
- between believers
- for humanity
- renouncing
- oppression
- aggressive violence
- terrorism
- in the name of religion
- justice
Universal benevolence is part of Christianity, not part of Islam.
Islamic charity extends to their Muslim brothers, not to the
wider world. Examine 2:273 and the surrounding context. Where does the loot come from, and where does it go?
- 8:41. And know that whatever of war-booty that you may gain, verily one-fifth (1/5th) of it is assigned to Allah, and to the Messenger, and to the near relatives [of the Messenger (Muhammad)], (and also) the orphans, Al-Masakin (the poor) and the wayfarer, if you have believed in Allah and in that which We sent down to Our slave (Muhammad) on the Day of criterion (between right and wrong), the Day when the two forces met (the battle of Badr) - And Allah is Able to do all things.
Renouncing oppression? A great sentiment, ain't it, but it ain't
part of Islam. Observe 3:110 and the saying which explains its meaning.
- 3:110. You [true believers in Islamic Monotheism, and real followers of Prophet Muhammad and his Sunnah (legal ways, etc.)] are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind; you enjoin Al-Ma'ruf (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam has ordained) and forbid Al-Munkar (polytheism, disbelief and all that Islam has forbidden), and you believe in Allah. And had the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) believed, it would have been better for them; among them are some who have faith, but most of them are Al-Fasiqun (disobedient to Allah - and rebellious against Allah's Command).
- Sahih Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 80:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Verse:--"You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind." means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam. - 47:4. So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives). Thereafter (is the time) either for generosity (i.e. free them without ransom), or ransom (according to what benefits Islam), until the war lays down its burden. Thus [you are ordered by Allah to continue in carrying out Jihad against the disbelievers till they embrace Islam...
Renouncing aggressive violence violates Islamic law. Reliance of the Traveller
makes it clear to all who will read it that Muslims may not abjure any
part of the Qur'an. There is a list in O8.7, of acts which entail
apostasy, which bears the death penalty.[O.8.1, 8.2]
- O8.7.7 to deny any verse of the Koran or anything which by scholarly consensus (def: b7) belongs to it, or to add a verse that does belong to it;
- 2:216. Jihad (holy fighting in Allah's Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know.
- 8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.
- The Order to fight until there is no more Fitnah
- 9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
- 9:123.O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who are the Al-Muttaqun (the pious - see V.2:2).
- 3:151. We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they joined others in worship with Allah, for which He had sent no authority; their abode will be the Fire and how evil is the abode of the Zalimun (polytheists and wrongdoers).
- 8:12.Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels, "Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes."
Justice is another matter. When Catholics use that word, the subtext is most likely to be Socialism. When Muslims use it, the subtext is "just us". 2:282 starts out with the proper meaning of justice, but deviates from it by declaring female testimony inferior. 4:29-30 deal with Justice between Muslims, of course, Kuffar are another matter; fair prey as per . Bukhari 1.8.387.
Either the Muslim participants in the forum are contradicting Allah
&
his Messenger and abandoning Islam or their affirmation of peace & justice is
insincere. Which is
it?
Click this link for A Common Word between Us and You, which precipitated the recent meetings. [Note the Events section, a recent addition to the page]. A Common Word's home page includes a summary, the missive, media reports, blog posts and various responses from Christian & Jewish leaders. Click this link: Islamic Extortion Letter for my original dissection of the missive or this link: Go Burn With Muhammad, a blog devoted to dissecting the missive and reactions to it.
A press release from the UN informs us that the Security Council, by a vote of 14:0 with Libya abstaining, passed a resolution in support of a two state solution of the 'Mid East Conflict'.
The resolution is proof positive that the UN Security council is composed of willfully blind fools. None but the willfully blind can see a vision of a Jewish state and a Muslim state living in peace and security side by side.
Such a condition
has never existed, does not now exist and never will exist because
Islam is permanent war. Allah's imperative is clear and unmistakable.
It names the intended victims and commands Muslims to fight them until
the victims are subjugated and pay extortion. The imperative has
neither geographic nor chronological limits.
9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
Moe confirmed receipt of this order to fight, and the confirmation was reported by the oral tradition of his companions.
- This honorable Ayah was revealed with the order to fight the People of the Book, after the pagans were defeated, the people entered Allah's religion in large numbers, and the Arabian Peninsula was secured under the Muslims' control. Allah commanded His Messenger to fight the People of the Scriptures, Jews and Christians, on the ninth year of Hijrah, and he prepared his army to fight the Romans and called the people to Jihad announcing his intent and destination. The Order to fight People of the Scriptures until They give the Jizyah
The eternal duration of Jihad is also recorded in Islamic oral tradition as codified by Abu Dawud.Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah."...
The authentic collections of Bukhari & Muslim record another saying which bears more directly upon the present case. "The hour" is a reference to Judgment Day, when the faithful Muslims will at last obtain admission to Paradise and claim their perpetual virgin houris and rivers of wine. This saying sets the slaughter of the Jews as a prerequisite for the Muslims receiving the reward they have so long sought. Read it carefully.Abu Dawud Book 14, Number 2526
Narrated Anas ibn Malik:The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.
Islam's end time prophecy informs us that when Jesus returns, he will kill the remnant of the Jews. Read this tradition from Abu Dawud's collection, with great care to the portions I have highlighted.Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177:
Narrated Abu Huraira:Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
If that seems ambiguous, Ibn Kathir's exegeses of 7:167 is crystal clear.Abu Dawud Book 37, Number 4310:
Narrated AbuHurayrah:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (peace_be_upon_him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.
Only an ignorant, deluded fool hopes that Islam will allow peace & security for Israel. If they are faithful Muslims, they can not tolerate Israel's existence. They have a divine mandate to make war upon the Jews. Have you not read Rodwell's translation of Al-Taubah 29?...He would certainly keep on sending against them (i.e. the Jews), till the Day of Resurrection, those who would afflict them with a humiliating torment. ...
Exactly what part of that do you not comprehend? It is an outcome oriented imperative; a do until loop. Let me clarify the matter for you.Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the last day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay tribute out of hand, and they be humbled.
- Muslims must make war upon Jews
- until
- they are subjugated & humiliated
- they make annual extortion payments
- they submit to domination by Muslims.
- The Jihad continues until the last day, when:
- Jesus will return to
- lead the Muslims in battle against the Jews
- kill the last remaining Jews hiding behind trees and rocks.
Allah also promised Muslims a significant military advantage over superior forces, so great a promise that they could not fulfill it and he had to lower his sights.13:41. See they not that We gradually reduce the land (of disbelievers, by giving it to the believers, in war victories) from its outlying borders. And Allah judges, there is none to put back His Judgment and He is Swift at reckoning.
24:55. Allah has promised those among you who believe, and do righteous good deeds, that He will certainly grant them succession to (the present rulers) in the earth, as He granted it to those before them, and that He will grant them the authority to practise their religion, that which He has chosen for them (i.e. Islam). And He will surely give them in exchange a safe security after their fear (provided) they (believers) worship Me and do not associate anything (in worship) with Me. But whoever disbelieved after this, they are the Fasiqun (rebellious, disobedient to Allah).
You need to take into account a few vital facts:8:65. O Prophet (Muhammad)! Urge the believers to fight. If there are twenty steadfast persons amongst you, they will overcome two hundred, and if there be a hundred steadfast persons they will overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are people who do not understand.
8:66. Now Allah has lightened your (task), for He knows that there is weakness in you. So if there are of you a hundred steadfast persons, they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a thousand of you, they shall overcome two thousand with the Leave of Allah. And Allah is with As-Sabirin (the patient ones, etc.).
- The earth belongs to Allah and his Messenger.
- The Messenger was sent to the entire world, not just his own tribe.
- Allah takes a special interest in the Levant on Moe's account.
Worse yet is the fact that Israel's existence proves Allah's promises to be void; that Allah
is an impotent idol. This is why peace is impossible: Islam can
not tolerate any insult to Allah. The clincher is in this tradition
found in Abu Dawud's collection. It informs us that Allah will curse
the Muslims if they abandon aggressive warfare in favor of productive
pursuits and will not remove the curse until they return to Jihad.
When have the Muslims ceased from inculcating hatred of Israel in their schools, Mosques & media? When have they ceased from inciting violence against Israel? They have not and they never will. What makes any fool believe that Muslims will conclude and observe a durable peace?Abu Dawud Book 23, Number 3455:
Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:I heard the Apostle of Allah, (peace_be_upon_him) say: When you enter into the inah transaction, hold the tails of oxen, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad (struggle in the way of Allah). Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion.
Moe's abrogation after three years of a ten year treaty with the Mekkans is Sunnah; an example to be emulated by all future generations. The bottom line: there is no peace and will be none until someone wises up and eradicates Islam. The so called "peace process" is a waste of time. Concessions & good will gestures only whet Islam's apetite, which can never be sated short of total world conquest so that as Abdullah Yusuf Ali renders it, "there prevail justice and faith in God altogether and everywhere" or, as Hilali & Khan render it, "religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]".47:35. So be not weak and ask not for peace (from the enemies of Islam), while you are having the upper hand. Allah is with you, and will never decrease the reward of your good deeds.
9:1. Freedom from (all) obligations (is declared) from Allah and His Messenger () to those of the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah), with whom you made a treaty.
If you require further clarification, please submit relevant questions in a comment.
From Zenit.org comes
Final Statement of Catholic-Muslim
Forum "Called to Be Instruments
of Love and Harmony"
For background information about the meetings, see this Reuters article
of 11/06/08.
The statement includes an enumerated list of fifteen points which
present a target rich environment In this installment, I'll take on the
third point of agreement.[Links & emphasis added.]
Lets commence with an examination of what Moe had to say about free will. This will be familiar from the first installment.Human dignity is derived from the fact that every human person is created by a loving God out of love, and has been endowed with the gifts of reason and free will, and therefore enabled to love God and others. On the firm basis of these principles, the person requires the respect of his or her original dignity and his or her human vocation.
Therefore, he or she is entitled to full recognition of his or her identity and freedom by individuals, communities and governments, supported by civil legislation that assures equal rights and full citizenship.
The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, 'Allah, the Blessed, the Exalted, created Adam. Then He stroked his back with His right hand, and progeny issued from it. He said, "I created these for the Garden and they will act with the behaviour of the people of the Garden." Then He stroked his back again and brought forth progeny from him. He said, "I created these for the Fire and they will act with the behaviour of the people of the Fire." 'A man said, 'Messenger of Allah! Then of what value are deeds?' The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, answered, 'When Allah creates a slave for the Garden, he makes him use the behaviour of the people of the Garden, so that he dies on one of the actions of the people of the Garden and by it He brings him into the Garden. When He creates a slave for the Fire, He makes him use the behaviour of the people of the Fire, so that he dies on one of the actions of the people of the Fire, and by it, He brings him into the Fire.' "[Malik's Muwatta Book 46, Number 46.1.2]
In Moe's creation myth, Allah makes two statements about this matter.
- "I created these for the Garden and they will act with the behaviour of the people of the Garden."
- "I created these for the Fire and they will act with the behaviour of the people of the Fire."
- And Allah does not guide the disbelieving people. 2:264
- Allah will not guide them and theirs will be a painful torment. 16:104
- "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah." Bukhari 1.8.387
Does Islam agree that we are
all entitled to full freedom; equal rights & citizenship
ensured by
civil legislation? This is impossible because Islam does not recognize
civil legislation. Only Allah has the right to rule,
delegated to
his Messenger, whose word is final. Of course, you doubt me and require
proof.
- 33:36. It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed in a plain error.
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Allah tells us that He is the only One Who has the power to create and make decisions, and there is no one who can dispute with Him in that or reverse His judgement. His saying: (And your Lord creates whatsoever He wills and chooses,) means, whatever He wills, for what He wills, happens; and what He does not will, does not happen. All things, good and bad alike, are in His Hands and will return to Him. Allah Alone is the One Who has the Power of Creation, Knowledge and Choice
(It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision.) This Ayah is general in meaning and applies to all matters, i.e., if Allah and His Messenger decreed a matter, no one has the right to go against that, and no one has any choice or room for personal opinion in this case. Allah says: (But no, by your Lord, they can have no faith, until they make you judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.) (4:65) Hence the issue of going against it is addressed in such strong terms, as Allah says: (And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed into a plain error.) This is like the Ayah: (And let those who oppose the Messenger's commandment, beware, lest some Fitnah should befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them) (24:63). The Reason for Revelation
- 4:11. Allah commands you as regards your children's (inheritance); to the male, a portion equal to that of two females;...
- ...And if there are not two men (available), then a man and two women, such as you agree for witnesses, so that if one of them (two women) errs, the other can remind her.... 2:282
Click this link for A Common Word between Us and You, which precipitated the recent meetings. [Note the Events section, a recent addition to the page]. A Common Word's home page includes a summary, the missive, media reports, blog posts and various responses from Christian & Jewish leaders. Click this link: Islamic Extortion Letter for my original dissection of the missive or this link: Go Burn With Muhammad, a blog devoted to dissecting the missive and reactions to it.
From Zenit.org comes Final Statement of Catholic-Muslim Forum "Called to Be Instruments of Love and Harmony"
For background information about the meetings, see this Reuters article of 11/06/08.
The statement includes an enumerated list of fifteen points which
present a target rich environment In this installment, I'll take on the second point of agreement.[Links & emphasis added.]
Lets examine what Allah & Moe had to say about the precious gift of life.Human life is a most precious gift of God to each person. It should therefore be preserved and honoured in all its stages.
- Concerning those who fight Muslims, Allah said: "And kill them wherever you find them" 2:191
- Concerning hypocrites (Muslims adverse to Jihad), Allah said: "But if they turn back (from Islam), take (hold) of them and kill them wherever you find them". 4:89
- Concerning others who wished security against Moe, Allah said: "take (hold) of them and kill them wherever you find them" 4:91
- Concerning the Mekkans, Allah said: "then kill the Mushrikun (see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush" 9:5
- Concerning Jews & Christians who reject Islam, Allah said: "Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the last day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay tribute out of hand, and they be humbled." 9:29 [Rodwell]
- Concerning nearby disbelievers, Allah said: "Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you" 9:123
- Concerning the lives & property of disbelievers, Moe said that they become sacred to Muslims when the disbelievers become Muslims. It is obvious from this saying, that our lives are not sacred to Muslims. "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah." Bukhari 1.8.387
What is the meaning of waging war against Allah? Ibn Kathir tells us explicitly in his tafsir.
- `Wage war' mentioned here means, oppose and contradict, and it includes disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways. The Punishment of those Who Cause Mischief in the Land
Because you do not believe in Allah and worship him exactly as Moe did, you are a rebel against Allah, and may be killed by Muslims without penalty. When good negotiates with evil, good loses.
Click this link for A Common Word between Us and You, which precipitated the recent meetings. [Note the Events section, a recent addition to the page]. A Common Word's home page includes a summary, the missive, media reports, blog posts and various responses from Christian & Jewish leaders. Click this link: Islamic Extortion Letter for my original dissection of the missive or this link: Go Burn With Muhammad, a blog devoted to dissecting the missive and reactions to it.
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